Calvin Tilokee 0:02
Hello and welcome to the midlife crisis podcast. I’m your host Calvin, also known as Revparblems on Instagram. I’m excited to do this talk show with my best friends from high school and college. Steve and Mikko, what can you expect on this podcast? Well, I like to call it a talk show for Men of a Certain Age. We’re not quite old. But we’re the kind of guys that have to make sure we don’t miss our alcohol and a night out, you know, we’ll chat about current events, trending topics, and things that we just need to get on our soapbox about knowing us. We’ll be laughing the whole time. And ladies, don’t worry. If you ever wanted to know what your husband or boyfriend talks about in the man cave. Stick around. Now, keep in mind, we’re old enough to remember when Parental Advisory stickers went on CDs. If you don’t know what CDs are, you’re too young for this podcast. Speaking of which, make sure you have your headphones in. It’s NSFW as these kids say. We’ll be bringing that flavor to your weekly on your way to work while you’re shaving. Or just sitting around wondering why a backer but let’s get this show on the road. Hello and welcome to midlife crisis podcast. I’m your host Calvin here was always with my boy Steven Mikko, bringing that flavor to you here on a weekly basis. On today’s episode, we’ll be discussing how to make the most of your network. As always, we’ll be bringing you our Chris Rock quote of the week. I don’t know that shit. I don’t like that jerk. And get off my lawn. But as always, how was the week fellas?

Steve 1:23
I had a killer week, we ended up getting into this virtual wine tasting as a gift from my parents. And that was a lot of fun. Have you guys ever done wine tastings or virtual wine tastings or anything like that?

Calvin Tilokee 1:38
I’ve done it in person. I’ve done a few in person,

Mikko Miller 1:40
not a person not. I wouldn’t even know what virtual wine tasting is like.

Steve 1:46
It’s the same thing as regular wine tasting. Just you’re doing it on zoom.

Mikko Miller 1:50
I mean, but where do you get the bottle? Is it your own? You buy your own wine bottles?

Steve 1:55
Yeah, you go to the website, buy the bottles, they ship them to you. And then once you receive them, you let them know and then they you just schedule that with them.

Mikko Miller 2:03
Oh, interesting.

Steve 2:05
It was okay. I mean, the wine was fantastic. But the wine tastings you know, to me it’s the same stuff all the time it what we do it in with these grapes and we do it in French oak and then we do American oak and then we do steel drums and then it Did

Calvin Tilokee 2:27
you know, making making music for your wine. That’s a different kind of wine. You talking about Steve?

Steve 2:36
so crazy. No, oh, no. It was at least interesting. I’ve done another one that was not that interesting at all. The entire time this woman was talking to the owner sounded like a complete douchebag Mm hmm. But outside of that, no, it’s uh, it was decent. And yeah, I got to get together with my parents for a bit and had some fun. Some laughs

Calvin Tilokee 2:59
Yeah, that’s cool. Actually, you know, actually just yeah, real quick on the on the wine tasting that we went to Napa a couple years ago, or Napa Valley, I should say. And they were actually I wouldn’t say fun. But you don’t have like pretentious people. At least we didn’t. We were lucky that way. beringer was one we did. And was like this older lady, but she was really cool. She was just kind of she would explain it like a normal person. You know, she wasn’t going into this hole looking off into the distance pontificating about grace. You know, you know? Yeah, I have never seen anybody swirl wind that fast. Yeah. Yo, she the way she was moving this glass. I don’t know how that wind didn’t end up all of everybody. It was crazy. I was like, This woman is a professional, you know? But no, I mean, I know what you’re talking about. But luckily, we didn’t run into that. Nice.

Steve 3:54
It’s not everywhere that you get that but you know, you certainly do get that pretentious factor when you’re dealing with just wine And yet I was fortunate that the woman who was our host was very down to earth. She made it a nice time. So yeah,

Calvin Tilokee 4:11
that’s good. That’s good man.

Mikko Miller 4:12
Man made it seem like what I did throughout my week was stupid. Open up Pokemon cards. I went on Instagram. I collected a lot of Pokemon packs and boxes till I had about 108 packs to open up. And then I did a countdown on my Instagram Live and then I filmed myself for two hours, opening up 108 packs of Pokemon cards. Yeah, that’s what I did throughout my week.

Calvin Tilokee 4:45
But you also you did that on your live?

Mikko Miller 4:46
I did that on my live? Yes, I did. Okay, okay. Two hours. So you know, for Instagram if you don’t go on live for a long period of time or if you haven’t logged in, I think like 1000 hours of live they cut you off at 60 minutes and then you have to Open your live and record again. Mm hmm. And put twice because it took damn near two hours to open up. I mean, I’m not even like reading the names. I’m like opening finding a good card and then opening another one and that took two fucking hours. Yeah, yeah. And then the bill is fucking one so there’s no Porky Pig for this guy. Just to let you know.

Calvin Tilokee 5:24
I wasn’t gonna bring it up. I wasn’t gonna bring it up. You know? I mean, when when the season ends, sore spot you Yeah, when the season ends, you know, you gotta you gotta leave the trash off the table, but I was rooting for you. I will admit I was rooting fail on that one. Because, you know, this is a closer rivalry with the bills like, I don’t want to see them do shit. You know? So I would rather the Ravens won.

Mikko Miller 5:45
We played like shit. So it’s one of those things where you know, you missed two field goals in the beginning. And that really put it behind the eight ball and I think that just kind of like, created the domino effect of negativity. You know.

Calvin Tilokee 5:58
It could be a slippery slope like that. And y’all kick it don’t really miss either, so it was kind of weird. He’s like the most accurate kicking fucking history and he misses two straight, which never happened. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

Mikko Miller 6:09
that was a sign.

Calvin Tilokee 6:10
Yeah, exactly. It’s a bad omen. I

Mikko Miller 6:12
think even the team have gotta be like, yo, yeah. And you know what I hate when that announcers the announcer. Oh, yeah. Justin Tucker is the most accurate kicker of all time, the best. Thank

Calvin Tilokee 6:25
you gotta save that for I don’t like that jerk.

Mikko Miller 6:30
You know, and I know I have something different for that one. Yeah. So

Calvin Tilokee 6:33
Hi. How about you? That’s cool. That’s good. My week was fairly uneventful until Saturday. So we had most good stories, it starts off just, you know, regular day, you just go on about your business. We had breakfast, washing the dishes, my wife’s in the shower, and we had a new faucet to put in for the foot of water filter. So I’m like, I’m just not this out. Well, she’s in a shower, and then we’ll go watch our TV, you know, do what we normally do chill out on a Saturday. And I get all this done. But I realize there’s like a slow leak on one of the pipes. So now I got to figure this out and realize there’s like a little fixture that goes on to the cold water pipe. So when I would move it, it would flow hotter or softer. So I’m like, Ah, so now Alright, so I’m trying to fix this thing. So I shut off all the valves, hot, cold, everything I shut everything off. Everything is turned off to the right. So I loosen and loosen one of the nuts that goes to the knob which is this is sound in real sexual unnecessarily. But so I loosened this thick and water starts going fucking every answer. And I’m telling everything’s off. Like I turned on the faucet. Nothing’s running. So I’m like, How the hell is the water flowing from here? It was like a fucking Cialis commercial. Oh, you ever see those? You ever seen those? Were like the married couples in the kitchen and like, what is it? Oh, baby. I guess the pipes is still working. Yeah.

Mikko Miller 8:08
You know what, though? You know, it’s way better than the Viagra commercials with that. What’s that guy’s name that ran for president? I can’t you know talking about the CLS more playful. Oh, let me google it now. circle back around.

Calvin Tilokee 8:28
I did not need to know about precedent is who the fuck was that?

Mikko Miller 8:32
He ran. He ran and lost. What should be al gore? Funny?

Calvin Tilokee 8:38
What looks that up? So now this shit is like everywhere. So I’ve run down to the lobby because we were in a apartment building. And there’s a maintenance guide is usually on on property. I was like, Yo, I need help. I don’t know what the fuck is going on. Luckily, he got upstairs like right away. But once he heard leak, he was like, Yo, I’m out. Come upstairs. And then apparently there’s a main water shut off in the closet, which I never knew about. I’ve been living in this building for like 15 years. Never knew about it. So I learned something new. I was able to shut off all the water. And I fixed the leak. And I am not a handy guy at all, which most people could probably tell from this story. They’re saying some shit I’d normally be doing. So you know.

Steve 9:19
Good for you, man.

Calvin Tilokee 9:20
Yeah, you know that was that and then other than that, I’ve discovered dua Lipa. I like her.

Mikko Miller 9:27
Yes.

Calvin Tilokee 9:29
Yeah. Like, I kept hearing the song and like I realized what was heard. I was like, Oh, shit, I really liked this. I can get that fucking song out of my head. Which one all week. Don’t start now.

Steve 9:39
Yeah, yeah.

Calvin Tilokee 9:40
Yeah, that’s just catchy as hell man. All we can listen to intuition. My wife’s making fun of me. I was like, I wish we had a teenage daughter that embarrassed the shit out of at a concert right? Dude, I would buy them tickets so fast. She’d be like, dude, let’s let’s go we out

Mikko Miller 10:01
Yeah, like, so pay with your friends.

Calvin Tilokee 10:03
I’ll be right behind you

Steve 10:05
rocking up the whole time.

Mikko Miller 10:07
Exactly. You get front seat, you get like that. You get like, exactly. VIP see she likes to like the orchestra acts or whatever section that is back

Calvin Tilokee 10:19
to front front row screaming like, you know,

Mikko Miller 10:23
oh, Bob Dole,

Calvin Tilokee 10:25
Bob Dole Bob Jones doing Viagra commercials

Mikko Miller 10:27
he did he did back in the day he did. I mean, he’s already stiff as it is. It was a perfect fit for

Steve 10:43
this guy with the jokes. Good one.

Calvin Tilokee 10:50
Oh, man. All right, that’s so if you’re still here, we are going to talk about networking today in this episode. Oh, this is something I wanted to bring up to the table because a lot of people hit me up on Instagram, and just ask about, you know, networking, the best ways to do it. And I think I found over time that most people really don’t make the most of it. of, you know, keep it in touch with people you’ve worked with in your professional career. And even outside of that, you know, so just wanted to bring that up, you know, I think we’ve all, you know, had some pretty decent careers, we’ve all utilized it, utilize networking, and I think, have some stories to share. So take it away, fellas.

Steve 11:33
So most recently, with COVID, I’ve started doing a lot of networking, just video conferencing, you know, you meet somebody or you post something on LinkedIn, or you see somebody on LinkedIn, and then you just start getting back in contact with people. That was one of the ways I started networking with, you know, a number of people I’m working with now. And it was literally this guy just posting things online and saying, hey, haven’t talked to anybody. This is more towards the beginning of the lockdown. And he goes, look, I miss talking to people, I would love to talk to somebody don’t want it to be a sales call. So you know, please check yourself. And again, I’ve been in sales, I was pretty upfront with him that if we start talking sales, and he’s going to initiate that, and it turns out, we eventually did. But yeah, getting real creative with the just ways of networking with people do either of you guys belong to any networking groups?

Mikko Miller 12:25
I did. For a long time, when I used to do financial services I did. They used to be like a first and third Sundays of the month, there’d be like a big collaboration, a big group of people would meet at like a hotel conference room. And it’s just basically like, speed dating type thing. You go from table to table, introduce yourself, what services you provide, what services they provide. And then you collect business cards, and then you go about it that way. But I was like, I haven’t done that in about maybe three years. But you definitely make good connections doing that. Yeah. Yeah,

Steve 12:59
that’s the last time I went to something like that was I was still in Chicago. And I would go to this. I’m not gonna mention the name of the group, but it’s a it’s a popular networking group for young professionals. I’ll leave it at that.

Every time I would go, you know, I would go there with a single friend of mine. And you know, try and wingman him and, you know, maybe get some contacts out of the situation. Every single time these these people right out of college, they would get far too drunk throw up and then feel like okay, now I need to network now after I’ve thrown up I need to network with me. Oh, so let me just with peace and love. Anybody out there if you’re networking with you know, once we can talk face to face again. If you’ve had a few too many go home. Just go home. And if you’ve thrown up my god go home. It was so bad, dude. That’s awesome. It was rough. And again, in my experience, it was a lot of these kids right out of college. Yeah, broke. Real quick. I’m talking to this one woman who ends up being being a lawyer. She has vomit on her breath. I keep backing away. She keeps coming towards me. And then her friend comes in and is like, yo, she she really likes you. And I go, Oh, that’s great. number one. Number two, her breath could peel paint right now. So you Why don’t you take your friend in the look on this person’s face was you know, just destroyed her world? You know. It’s a good opportunity to you know, right now, I think to lay out some guidelines. If you’re networking with people, you know, if you’re going to network if your intention is just to get drunk and make a fool of yourself in front of a roomful of people you don’t know. Probably don’t do it in a professional setting. Just go to a club or a bar. If you are going out there to network with people have a clear understanding of what you want to do and what you want to get out of the conversation. Have your your elevator pitch, ready to go have it for no one out there who knows what that is, the elevator pitches a imparting something on someone in the amount of time it would take to ride in an elevator. So it’s just a real quick, high level, who you are, what you’re here to do, or what you’re here to offer, as part of the conversation, but have that stuff ready to go. That way you’re not sitting there fumbling and awkward and you know, just hitting your d’oeuvre tray, which is what I used to do early on.

Calvin Tilokee 15:37
Right. I think we’ve all been there when, you know, awkward in those situations. But I mean, it sounds like she had her pitch ready, dude, like she was she was offering. Dude, you know, she was so bad. She wanted to.

Steve 15:54
I wanted to ask her. Did you know whether or not she had shellfish or something? Because

Calvin Tilokee 16:04
Did you have a decorated night exam?

Steve 16:07
For anybody out there? We’re quoting 40 year old virgin?

Calvin Tilokee 16:12
I think I’m going to pass on the sex. Thank you. Yeah.

Steve 16:19
It’s so good.

Calvin Tilokee 16:20
Wow. Yeah. But we’ve all been in those type of situations. But I’d say for me, where my network really first had a major impact in my career was, I told the story on our intro episodes about building our careers. But I was laid off from a Crowne Plaza in, I forget what year I’m too old to remember what year but after that, after a couple subsequent positions, I was out of work for almost two years. But the way I got back into the workforce was the director of revenue I had at that Crowne Plaza was at a different position, a different hotel, bigger Hotel in the city. And she she brought me in, she advocated for me to come in. And that was the way I got back in the workforce. And then the position I got right after that was my first director position, and I never really looked back, you know, but I got a, I’ve always been thankful for her to doing that, because she didn’t really need to do it. You know, there were a lot of people, she could have hired, but she went to HR, I was like, No, I want him this, if we open in that position, I want him bring him in. And obviously, she had a good enough reputation when they listened to her. But, you know, I would say maintain good relationships with your bosses, you know, obviously, good ones, you know, but yeah, you always just keep in touch. I mean, even now, throughout COVID and stuff, nobody’s working in our industry for the most part, but send your boss an email every now and then even if they’re still working, even if they’re not, if, obviously, again, if you had a good relationship with them, but shoot him a note. I mean, I think people forget, they’re people just like us, you know, they’re, they’re going through all the same shit you’re going through, but at a high level, you know, and sometimes, it’s okay to just ask them, Hey, how are you? How you holding up How you doing? You know, how’s the family, whatever, people tend to overlook that.

Mikko Miller 18:09
Yeah, that’s true. That’s a really good point. And just to kind of piggyback over your offer your story, um, when I was laid off from the HMO that I was working at, because I had a decent enough of a reputation before being laid off. One of the analysts that used to be an analyst there who I was like an administrator for a project manager for moved up to like a higher position within the region. So he went from like a county job to like a regional job. And then back to the county job. And one of the first people that he recommended to be a manager for him, once he started overtaking, like the whole county was me, because you know, the reputation and the work that you do for someone, it makes a big deal, it makes a really good impression. And even though I was laid off by another manager, he remembered how I had worked for him and how I was diligent in getting tasks done, and getting projects done, and not really providing any kind of drama or hassle a problem for him, that I will, you know, out of 130 candidates, you know, I was really one of the people that he like put the pin on and said, Hey, if this guy makes it through the HR process, you know, I want to go interview him because I really want him to be in like, this managerial position that I’m going to be in charge of. And it just goes to show that what a good reputation can do and a good hard work and ethics can lead you to because I was out of work. For a total of five years out of that company. I had done other things, but you know, it’s always nice to go back into like a higher paying job with great benefits and I was doing work that didn’t have benefit. And for him to reach out and say hey, I need someone, you know, to fulfill this position. He was like I was looking at you, you know, out of the blue after five years Can you imagine being out of the service or out That industry for five years and then being called back in to just be like, Hey, I’m gonna put you in an even higher position. You know, because you did such a good job.

Calvin Tilokee 20:10
Yeah, years or five years, mine was almost two, but I think even two years out of work out in any industry, it’s a tough sell. Oh, yeah, you know, tough told to explain that because there’s always somebody else that’s not in that position that can can explain they read like their resume makes sense, you know, so yeah, without that reputation that you left with your boss, that wouldn’t happen. And that’s something they

Mikko Miller 20:34
got to pay attention to. And it’s, if you looked at my resume the gap, of course, you have to explain if any of you guys have ever been in the workforce, you have to explain your gaps at work, right. any gaps in your resume, you got to explain whether you weren’t working or you’re doing side hustles, or you’re doing like your own small business or whatever, you got to explain the gaps in your resume. And then with my resume, because a lot of people don’t know that, that ended up working for an industry that’s kind of frowned upon. You know, just to let people know, you know, just, I worked in the adult industry, not in that capacity to do you guys are thinking of, but more than, like a compliance capacity. And to have that on your resume when you’re going to back into an HMO hospital, business type of setting, you know, it’s really frowned upon. And a lot of times, they don’t even they tend to overlook your resume when you have, like, companies like that, especially with that type of reputation. And to be interviewed, to have that overlooked and to be hired and placed even higher position than what you were seeking. I mean, it’s a big deal.

Calvin Tilokee 21:32
Yeah, I mean, that’s, that’s not the kind of gap you want.

Mikko Miller 21:35
Ah, that one, but you know,

Calvin Tilokee 21:42
definitely want to go don’t want to be backing into any jobs after that.

Steve 21:47
Gotta be careful.

Mikko Miller 21:49
Yeah, gotta be careful. Yeah, but no.

Calvin Tilokee 21:53
Depends on a good job.

Mikko Miller 21:55
Let’s leave it at that.

Calvin Tilokee 21:57
Yeah, sure, for sure. And that, and that, that was one of the points that I wanted to bring up. One thing that I was always told with, you know, with just work in general is to be memorable. Right. And that’s, that’s definitely in a positive way. But that also works in a negative and you don’t want to be memorable. negatively. That sounds like oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Let’s That’s obvious. But you know what, you’d be surprised how many people let dumbshit get in the way and let let their ego and attitude get in the way of something like that. And I had an analyst once, who was just very hard headed. The person that I had replaced, told me right off the bat, she like, she got a strong personality. I was like, Okay, well, she met me yet. You know, that’s cool. You know,

she goes, she’s, she’s gonna do what she needs to do, she’s gonna have to get the fuck out of here. And we butted heads a lot, because I don’t play that the way I look at it. No, in order to lead you first need to learn how to follow. And when when I was in the analyst role, and I was in the reservations manager’s role. I was a good soldier. I did what I was told. And I learned, right, that’s how you move up. And I’m not going to take no kind of shit like that from an analyst. So we had it up many times. And long story short, she ended up leaving under her own volition, but she ended up realizing, okay, I’m not gonna be able to get away with this crap here. And she ended up leaving the company. And a couple years later, I’m at an at a networking event, talking to some people I had never met before. Her name came up. And this guy who wasn’t even in the conversation, he was, you know, I like you’d be in a circle and as a dude, like, maybe three feet away, but I guess he could he’s, he’s dropping to try to get into the conversation. Her name came up. And this dude, blurts out, she’s a bitch. Oh. And I was like, there you go. I was like, your reputation precedes you, good or bad. And that’s not the taste you want to leave in somebody’s mouth, you know?

Steve 23:54
Not at all. So when I was thinking about this topic before the thing tonight, one of the, I guess, tools to use at a networking event is an icebreaker. Do either of you guys have like a go to icebreaker for, you know, these networking events?

Calvin Tilokee 24:11
I know, not me.

Steve 24:13
I don’t know.

Mikko Miller 24:15
Do you kind of like having a pickup line? But No, I don’t. Yeah,

Steve 24:18
exactly. It is kind of like having a pickup line. You know, you can easily come across, you know, focused on the wrong thing. I mean, people are simply going to ask, what do you do? Well, yeah, you know, if I said that I’m in sales. That means, you know, casting aspersions on whatever the hell that means it again, going back to my point about going in there with a purpose. If I just want to get to know somebody, I’m not going to ask them what they do. You know, you start asking questions about themselves. What do you

Mikko Miller 24:45
you know, where,

Steve 24:46
where are you going on vacation after COVID starts, you know, what was the biggest vacation you had to cancel? You know, due to COVID or something?

Calvin Tilokee 24:55
Yeah, no, it’s a great point.

Steve 24:58
And the thing with with the COVID right now It’s a great way to start any conversation with anybody because you can take it in a number of places.

Calvin Tilokee 25:05
Yeah, yeah. No, that’s, that’s that’s a great point. And I think, I think to your original question about having a certain line or open or anything like that, I’m gonna answer that two ways. because number one, yeah, you don’t want to be, you want to be natural, you want to just have a conversation with somebody, you don’t want to come off like it’s scripted. And, you know, again, yeah, if you ask about work that immediately, most people don’t really like what they do it, you know, or even if you do it, it’s stressful. Right? So that’s, you don’t want to just talk about that. So that’s a great point you’re making Steve is like, ask different questions to kind of put people in different frame of mind, you know, but that could be difficult for for introverts, you know, and my wife is an introvert. And that’s not easy for like, small talk is not something that she’s good at. So there are a lot of different ways to approach that. And yet, you might want to have an opener or an idea, but try to make it sound like how normal people talk, you know, to be, you know,

Steve 26:04
those are all great points. And again, inherently I’m, I find myself to be an introvert because I don’t, I don’t like going to networking events, and it goes back to me stuttering as a kid, I just don’t like talking to, you know, a lot to people, which is odd, given what I do. But I always went into situations doing exactly what you just suggested about doing the, you know, just having a couple of ideas in my head floating around about something I can talk about real quick, it made networking events much more bearable. And for anyone out there listening right now I any tips, icebreakers that they use, I think would be interesting to find out, find out about,

Mikko Miller 26:44
I’ve been to networking events where they try to squeeze conversations out of people, and it just doesn’t work. I mean, I’ve been to events where it’s like 300 plus people, and they try to do these things or like you pull a question out of a hat and you ask the person to your left, you know, hey, you know how many family members do you have that live overseas? And you strike up a conversation that way? Because it’s all like, open ended questions instead of like, you know, yes, or no questions, but I’m not gonna do that for 300 people. You know, I’m trying to get my name out there. My services out there. I’m trying to figure out what you do and do something. You know, I don’t have time to know that you got 14 kids and three of them have cats and two have dogs and you have twins. I don’t need to know that shit. You know, I mean, it’s cool. But I’m not making friends. You know, I’m trying to make a connection with someone that I can connect with professionally. Yeah, you know, if I’m going to service you need, you got a service I need cool. We’ll talk you know if I’m going to take my daughter or my son or my dog out for a playdate. I’m not gonna call you. You know what I mean? Not not often this event, man, you can be a fucking stranger and a serial killer for all I know. Right?

Calvin Tilokee 27:52
You reminded me of Chris Rock quote, he’s like, you go on to good dates be like well be bullshit.

Mikko Miller 27:57
Yeah, Bobby bullshit. Get to the point. Get to the point. Exactly. That’s exactly my point. Get to the fucking

Calvin Tilokee 28:07
Yeah. Well, there’s different approaches. And you know, I think I’m gonna put words in your mouth here, but I assume you do that tactfully? Yes.

Mikko Miller 28:16
Yes. like, yo, shut

Calvin Tilokee 28:18
up, man. Okay. You want to be like, yo, kids,

Mikko Miller 28:22
man.

Fuck your couch.

Yeah, you know what I

Calvin Tilokee 28:31
think? I think a good. You know, it’s a good segue into another point we wanted to bring up about using social media, you know, and I think if you are an introvert, or you’re somebody who’s not really comfortable doing that kind of thing on, you know, networking events and stuff like that, they could be overwhelming when there’s that many people in the room analyze like, okay, your goal is to get five contacts tonight. For somebody. I mean, I’m an extrovert. And that was difficult for me in the beginning. It’s like, Whoa, you know, what do I say? How am I supposed to connect that, you know, before you got really just natural with people, but you know, use use social media. Obviously, LinkedIn is a great place for that. And you know, but quite frankly, any platform, just comment with people and I’ll tell a story about this podcast, some months ago, actually was over over a year ago, I got an email from somebody because I had my email address in my bio on Instagram, and I got the person sent me an email as opposed to, you know, just like a DM or something. And he was just like, Hey, you know, man, I love your stuff. I thought it was an here’s the key. I responded to him and said, Thank you very much. And then we had a little conversations like, hey, if you ever in the city, let’s grab a drink, blah, blah, blah, real cool. But I say that was key because I’ve done that. I’ve sent emails like that to people that I follow who had bigger accounts than I and they don’t respond. Cricket. Yeah, and it’s like, Huh, okay, so you so you’re talking this shit about, you know, having an audience and being an Engage, but you ain’t really doing anything. So okay, whatever. But the thing is, there’s another person on the side that email you don’t know who, who or what they are. Right. But I think it just kind of goes back to just be nice. This Don’t be a dick. Right? So fast forward a year, the same guy emails me and says, Hey, would you like to be on no vacancy podcast, which is the one with Anthony melchiorre and Glenn Houseman, which is like, probably the top hospitality podcast out there. And I was like, hell yeah. guy calls me He’s like, yeah, you know, we had a spot open up. We need to fill it. Boom, the next day, I’m on the show. And then turns out, Dave produces my podcast now. Because who did I think about when I wanted to start doing a podcast? I was like, This guy does it. If he could do it for them, you could do it for me shit.

Mikko Miller 30:53
Shout out, Dave.

Calvin Tilokee 30:55
Dave, that’s awesome. You got to drop the horns there.

But I think that’s a great story. Because it’s, it was so easy and simple. I’m sure he didn’t send me that email initially, with any intent, like, oh, one day, I’m a producer’s podcast, you know, it’s like, he appreciated what I was doing. And I in turn, appreciated the fact that he liked it. And I was, you know, anybody who takes the time to, to be on my page and engage with my stuff. I’m grateful for it. You know, nobody needs to look at any of my shit. You know, but you never know what what comes out of these type of things. And do you guys have have similar kind of stories?

Mikko Miller 31:35
not to the extent that you had where you find a producer for a podcast, my social media, networking started with a lot of people know April, Athena seven, or five, fuck, I can’t remember now. Sorry, April. We were talking about like, you know, YouTube and Instagram and being big on social media. And I found out like, my wife’s cousin is like, huge. I mean, he’s not like 300 400,000 followers on Instagram, and YouTube, and, you know, literally killing it. And a lot of my foodie account success. And growth was through her just saying, you know, hey, this is my cousin Mikko, or my wife’s cousin, Mikko, he does this go, you know, check them out. And it’s not networking, in the sense that you had a Calvin, but this is more like a network. She knew me we knew each other. And then she kind of hooked me up by putting me on blast on her YouTube on her Instagram whenever she goes on live. And it took my small account that I just started, you know, I think that time, it was only like two or three months, and it grew to like 5000, within like eight months, all because of that, and just having that connection. And I think that’s what it is more than networking, per se. It’s that connection with someone. Yeah, she’s a family friend. Oh, no, actually, she’s my wife’s family, not even a family friend. But just having that connection with someone helped with that. And then I was able to reach out to other foodie, other people, other businesses that kind of help, you know, support my channel collaborated with people. And then now you know, you start getting into these groups where, you know, foodies, small business owners, big Instagram pages, big YouTube pages, like we’re all collaborating on stuff in is all through like one connection. And it makes a big deal like yours that one visit to that podcast landed you a dope ass producer that’s now producing the show. And we’ve been live for what, almost a year. Now?

Calvin Tilokee 33:35
Not quite, not quite. So give us six months,

Mikko Miller 33:38
maybe going on seven, right February going on seven. Yeah. But so they gave you that connection that one visit kind of like, created this whole thing. And that’s, that’s the cool thing about that.

Calvin Tilokee 33:48
Exactly. Exactly. At the end of the day, it’s just engaging with a person, you know, you’re not doing it with the intention of, Okay, this has to be business, this has to result in something. It’s just making a friend. It’s just Hey, somebody didn’t know before. I’m having a kind of like a little referral avalanche right now. So there was somebody who reached out on Instagram, to my page, like a year ago. But this was before I really started doing ads and different things. But they had the vision for doing something like that. I just wasn’t there yet. But once I did get there, I remembered her and I said, Hey, you know what, let me reach out to this person. They have a consulting company. And they’re based in in Holland. So I reached back out, we had a zoom call like two weeks ago. From that, she led me to another person who works in like a similar capacity they do. They have a different type of consulting firm, spoke to that person, just pay just get to know you. Let me see what you’re doing whatever whatever. That person wants to do a consultation with me now. So that’s business coming through. And then she referred me to another guy who I’m speaking to this week. And again, none of this came from Okay, I’m going to go after her and she’s going to do this. This this It was like, Hey, tell me more about what you’re doing. Yeah. And I told her about what I was doing. And then we realized, Hey, you know what? Not right now, but six, eight months from now when she’s ready to expand to the US, boom, she’s gonna think of me. There you go, you know?

Steve 35:13
It’s fantastic, man. I have a question for you guys about networking with other people, you know, meeting new people. All that’s great. How much time do you guys spend networking within your own company? and Calvin, how much time did you spend networking with your own company? When you were with the hotel?

Calvin Tilokee 35:35
Huh? Well, ecology offers

Mikko Miller 35:40
a lot, to be honest. Yeah, networking within even my building. So I work for a healthcare provider, but I don’t work at a hospital I work at like one electrical side offices that’s more catered towards, like business services and medical coding and stuff like that. Do their, you know, I made sure. Because to get around in the health care provider industry, especially mine, it’s a lot of it is really getting your foot in the door, getting your name out there, having people recognize you, and knowing you, and it helps you progress your career, right. So, you know, I would go around, when I used to do like a front desk job, I would go around and I would volunteer to like deliver mail or pick up mail. And then that gave me the opportunity to be like, Hey, who’s Tina? Oh, Tina’s this supervisor over here. So I go deliver the mail, who’s Gino Jean. And then by doing that on a daily basis, you get a chance to know these people. And then it landed me to my first analyst job. Because I was just like a little clerk doing that kind of stuff. And Sarah, one of the other person’s uses happen to be a manager, which is like, you know, how do you like working at the front desk? No, like, no, it kind of sucks. But you know, it’s the only thing that I got right now I’m just trying to get my foot in the door have only been at Kaiser or wherever, St. Joseph’s or, you know, St. Jude, I’ve only been here like six months? And she says, Okay, well, how do you see yourself in this career? And I said, I don’t want to be a front desk clerk for a long time. I have a bachelor’s degree and her eyes lit up. Oh, you have a bachelor’s degree? Oh, I’m looking for an analyst to be able to do this. Do you know Excel? Do you know word? Are you proficient with like, you know, Microsoft Office? And then I say yes. And then that’s steamrolled into like a project manager job, you know, analyst, data analyst, senior analyst, project manager. And it’s all because, you know, I took the time to like, get to know people. And then Kaiser, which is the HMO that I worked at. They are really good at promoting networking amongst each other. So we have events, like, every year at a big, you know, little jail by the beach. And we all go to all the managers and we all get to know each other. And it’s because each job function affects the other person’s job function. If I worked in medical records, I affect everybody. So at these networking events, if I’m in medical records, the nursing staff, you know, everyone from emergency room from billing, it’s all affected by medical records. So it’s like, oh, hey, you’re the guy that I sent records to? How long did it take for my records to get there? Boom? Hey, I got a patient that’s looking for this. We sent it over to you guys four weeks ago. Do you have it? Do you not have it? What’s your process? Boom. And then that one day of doing that once a year? I mean, you get your name tossed around to like, you know, two 300 executives. And if you leave a good enough impression, I mean, it could lead to some doors it already has. There’s already people that in regional facilities that know my name, and it’s surprising how they know your name is by it’s like, Oh, you were at that event? And I remember you because you said this to me, or, you know, I kind of take back what I was saying before, because these events, they asked those silly, ask questions, because it’s not a professional networking tool. We’re trying to get services from each other. But it’s more like getting to know, because we’re supposed to be like one kind of family. Yeah, so one of the questions I asked it, I guess, like, tip this guy off to where he would like, impress me what I said, and then, you know, three or four months later, Hey, you got this project that you’re working on, I’m doing this, we met at this event, hey, you want to help me with this project? Blah, blah, blah, and then it helps create more projects for me, which is kind of cool.

Calvin Tilokee 39:19
Nice. That’s great. Man.

Steve 39:21
That’s a great example.

Calvin Tilokee 39:22
No, we definitely did a lot of a lot of networking. I mean, we were kind of known for that. It was it would get to the point where because a lot of obviously, in hotels, you work with a lot of otas online travel agencies, like your Expedia is booking.com every meal, these type of and they would constantly have events, you know, throughout the year to kind of bring all the hotel partners around so it’s like, hey, we’ll get you drunk, you know, and maybe we get you to sign

Mikko Miller 39:48
up. You guys have had to give it

Calvin Tilokee 39:51
Oh, yeah, we had we had a lot of those. But if it wasn’t something like that, we did a lot of them within the company to just periodically we We were all very close that way. And it was great, because pretty much each hotel had a director and an analyst. And then this is how you would get to know other people who would, maybe you’re having trouble with the system, like, you know, like when I moved to independent properties, this systems work completely differently. And you know, for those of you out there who may not know, hotels, like a Hilton system, Marriott Hyatt, everybody uses a completely different way of doing things, completely different systems. And the good thing is about our companies, we had hotels, pretty much across most major brands. And hey, you know, I don’t know, Hilton, or I’m new at this Hilton, but you know, what, go talk to such and such over here, they’ve been with Hilton for five years at this property, you could talk to them. And this is where you would get to meet those people. So it went from, you know, just a name on an email trail to Oh, I noticed person, hey, let’s connect, let’s grab lunch. And then maybe you can you can show me how to use this. Or, you know, even if you’re an analyst, and you might move around, you might end up working with one of the directors that are in that room. You know, hopefully they remember you in a positive way. You know what I mean? And that’s the way to kind of get to kind of work those relationships. But yeah, we did a ton of that, if we were just known for networking, like when we would show up, every all of these parties would be like, Yes, that was a party day, we were just known. Somebody told us, they were like, when I first started, they were like, yo, y’all got to be the only company that got bars on like, like a standard billing everyone. Like we now show up with a purchase order, you know, but you know, but it was, it was great. That was one of the great things about working at hotels. And with that my company specifically, we’re really good at that. And I’ll finish off this, this segment with with a funny story about how I even got in. So remember, I got back, the boss I referenced earlier who brought me back in to the bigger hotel, that hotel was taken over by this company that I ended up working for, for, like 10 years. And once they took over, I made it known to the VP at the time that I wanted to get into revenue, I had done it. But I taken a step back to move into this bigger hotel because of being out of work for a couple years. And she remembered that every time she came by and say hello, whatever. And again, I’m being nice. And being a regular guy. I’m not asking, you know, because people can tell difference. You know, and some people believe it or not, some people don’t like it.

Unknown Speaker 42:27
Yeah, but

Calvin Tilokee 42:28
yeah, just be a nice, Hey, how are you? You know, blah, blah, blah. I made it known. I didn’t say it every time I saw her, but it was like, you know, she got the point. So now I interview with her. And then she sends me to the to the chief revenue officer. So and this is even for like a director position. But even analysts, they wanted to meet everybody. Because again, they tried to keep this kind of real tight knit family, kind of a network. So I’m meeting with him go through the interview. And he said, It was funny, he really started grilling me about you know, some numbers, I guess I made one offhand comment. And he took that and ran with it the whole individual. So I was working at the Crowne Plaza in Times Square. At the time, there was a Hershey store on the ground floor. And they had one of those wraparound billboards, you know, you see in Times Square, which is like a message that goes around. Sure. And we had a package where if you booked a room, you know, I’d like somebody’s birthday, you can leave a message up there. Right? So if it was somebody’s birthday, you could be like Happy birthday, Steve, or Happy anniversary, whatever you wanted to put and it would run for like 15 minutes. So I was talking about how I helped to sell more of those packages, thinking it would make me sound smart and good in the interview. This guy goes, Okay, so hold on a second. If you could sell one of those packages, every 15 minutes for an hour, how much money could you make in a year? And I was Uh huh. And he like throws a calculator at me. I was like, gosh, it’s the fuck I’m doing. You know, like, I could probably figure that out. And if I’m in the office and analyzing, like, I wonder if you know, but in the interview on the spotlight that day, oh, I was so nervous. I fucked up. I gave him some kind of number. And he was like, Are you sure? So I’m like, okay, that means it’s wrong. Let me try again. Gave him another number and he goes, Well, alright, you gotta look at it this way. He just really broken and he’s like, Look, if it runs for 15 minutes, how many 15 minutes? You have an hour. I was okay. Yeah. Yeah, for and he’s like, Alright, so how many hours in a day? Boom. How many days in a month? And then then I was like, Oh, yeah, that was that’s real simple. When you look at it that way, you know? So?

Mikko Miller 44:35
Yeah, but on the spot. That’s hard, though.

Calvin Tilokee 44:38
Yeah, on the spot. I was like, that’s not what I was expecting. But I was like, Alright, I should just do it and go hire me. Like he’s gonna call this lady and be like, what the fuck you said this guy here for all right. So that was sometime in the middle of the week. And I was like, Listen, hey, you know, I think I did well enough, but you know, whatever. That weekend. We go to away My wife was working in a completely different hotel. And her GM was getting married and invited her and I to the wedding. at the wedding. I see that same guy I interviewed with during the week. He walks through, he’s like walking through, like, like the great room or like, the cocktail hour. And he stopped. He looked at me, like, everything on his face said, What the fuck are you doing here? And then it was kind of like, well, who is this guy? Like, how are we not the same party? And then I was like, that’s either going to work for me or against me next week. We’ll see. But I did end up getting a job. So I guess it was a good night.

Mikko Miller 45:39
He There you go.

Steve 45:42
That’s good story.

Calvin Tilokee 45:43
Yeah. And there’s a part two with him. I always seem to end up. It’s a really weird stories with this guy. But we’re in Vegas. And I’ve mentioned a couple of times we go to Vegas for this big conference at the end of the year, right. And one year, he was like, you know, he was bouncing like a drink on his head. Everybody was taking pictures of it. I put it up on my Instagram. Right? So a bunch of people saw it and then asked him about it. So I guess he got embarrassed, because everybody saw it. But I’m like, dude, we’re in a club. 4000 people, you don’t think they saw it already? So he, he kind of got salty with me. But I was like, God, whatever, man, Fine, whatever. So the following the following year, he’s there and you sit next to this girl. And that’s when I was when to say hello to him or whatever. And he goes to the girl like, as I’m saying hello to her. He goes to her was like, yo, yo, gotta be careful with this guy. He’ll take pictures of you and post it up on Instagram. Like, words like that. So I spun it around, and I took my phone out. And I showed I was like, Yo, I mean, this is what I’m doing. I’m just having a little fun or whatever, before I even finished this. And she’s like, Oh my God, your Revparblems it was like you ever seen those memes where it’s just like, like, like the shades come down to data? Oh, yeah. He must have been like, Yo, man Who the fuck is this guy? Dude, that’s so funny.

Steve 47:16
There you go.

Calvin Tilokee 47:20
Yeah, I didn’t work out the way he expected. But hey, you know, shit happens. Oh, man. All right. Anyway, so we’re gonna, we’re gonna jump into with switch up the order a little bit this week. For

Mikko Miller 47:37
Let’s go. Let’s go bring it on. Alright, so Steve Steve’s in the hot seat, correct? Yeah. So I kind of alluded to being in financial services and that kind of stuff. And this is one of the questions that we ask people. So I’m going to go ahead and ask Steve, it’s it’s regarding compounding interests. How familiar are you with compound interest? If

Steve 48:01
not like the back of my hand? But, but go ahead. Let’s get weird. All right.

Mikko Miller 48:08
If you doubled a penny every day for 30 days, how much money would you have?

Steve 48:15
I don’t know the answer to this question. But there was a chart in my classroom in fifth grade that had this laid out. Because it was a question that the teacher had asked this shithead named Ronnie in my fifth grade class. And it was one of two avenues you could she said you could give him $1,000 or take this Penny and it doubles. It’s something is something like 16,732.

Mikko Miller 48:41
Let me Whoa. Let me rephrase. Let me let me ask you a different question before I give you the answer. Yeah, let you have a penny that doubles for 30 days, or I’ll give you $2 million at the end of 30 days. What would you pick the penny? There you go. But you don’t know what the total amount is. Right.

Steve 49:02
I forget what the amount is, but I know that it’s more than I expected as a fifth grader. And it’s always stuck with me I just I don’t remember the the amount

Mikko Miller 49:12
of penny that doubles for 30 days is 5.3 million.

Steve 49:17
There you go.

Mikko Miller 49:18
What the hell? Yeah. So you guys want to hear to break down the 30 day break down? Yeah.

Calvin Tilokee 49:24
All right. I’m gonna find some pennies.

Mikko Miller 49:27
So check this out. So one to two right. Two to 440-816-3264 128 256-512-1024 2048 4096 8192 160 $363.84 on day 15. Yeah, long way to 5 million right. 163 doubles to 327 doubles to 6655. doubles to 1300 10 doubles to 2600. doubles the 5200 doubles to 10,000 500 Okay, that was just 21,000 doubles to 41,000. doubles to 84. Because there’s you know, 1000s in here so 84 to about 160. To about 330 to 670 on day 27 670,000. Double that it’s 1.34 2 million on day 28. Day 29 is 2.6 8 million. And then date 30 is 5.36 8 million. A fucking penny.

Steve 50:34
That was a good one, man.

Mikko Miller 50:36
That’s crazy, right? Like, it’s hard to believe. You know, when people do people usually go like, oh, I’ll take the 2 million easy, because they’re thinking a penny that’s doubling every day doesn’t mean shit. Yeah, you look at anything that doubles. I mean, first 15 days you only have $163.84 which is nothing. But then a 16 a date? 30 I mean, you go from $163 a day 15 to 5.3 million on day 30. It’s insane. That’s nuts. That’s nice. There you go. Folks, you learned something today.

Calvin Tilokee 51:08
Good. Look at that. Yeah, Steve. That was some Slumdog Millionaire shit, right? Crazy was like yo, fifth graders. Dude. Ronnie. I was like, go What? kick

Mikko Miller 51:29
it up. Slumdog Millionaire. He got the story, man.

Unknown Speaker 51:32
Yeah.

Steve 51:35
It’s 5.3. I’m never gonna forget that. And someone had I was interviewing for this really big company. I’ll keep this real brief. And the person in the recruiter that I was working with, was saying, you know, you better be prepared for some out there questions. And I was expecting, you know, it was questions like what Mikko just asked me. You know, how many golf balls can fit in a 737? Yeah, yeah. And this guy was expecting an answer. And I I went about it the right way and give him an answer. But questions like this. Always just bring me back to that that interview. It’s bananas. And chaiwala. Like the

Calvin Tilokee 52:23
visual memory.

Mikko Miller 52:24
Yeah. That’s true.

Calvin Tilokee 52:28
All right. Now it’s time for

Steve 52:34
real quick, with how the I’m going Trump I was really debating whether or not to do Trump’s are handling is not even meeting the Biden’s. Oh, wow. Come on, man. That’s just lame. It’s weak. It’s like it’s a weak way to lose. It’s such a weak way to go out. He could at least go out on I mean, it’s such a simple gesture. That’s been done since the beginning of our country. Anyway, um, yeah, that brief.

Unknown Speaker 53:06
We did a whole clown but

Mikko Miller 53:09
fuck Trump. By the way, if y’all don’t know fuck Trump. Oh, mines mines short mine simple. My get off my lawn. Shit. That fucking chaps my ass grinds my gears. If you guys watch Family Guy. If you’re a friend of mine, if I know you, if for some sort of acquaintance, then you ask me for information. I freely give out information advice. I try not to give out advice because I don’t want to be that guy that hands out advice all the time. But if someone asked me for advice, and I’ll give, especially if I know you, but if you’re a total random stranger, which I get all the time in social media, you know, asking me for, you know what I think about this, should I buy this? Should I buy that? What’s the value of this? And if I don’t know you, you know, I’ll give you a courtesy answer, like, you know, a little vague, you know, kind of push you towards getting your own answer doing your own research. But there are some motherfuckers out there that would ask you every fucking question they have about a particular topic. And you can tell they don’t want to fucking do the research. It’s easier for them to just ask you the question, get spoon fed and answer and then if you’re wrong, God forbid, they come after you like hey, you told me this and this flopped. No fucker, I gave you an answer. I gave you like a little nugget for you to go out there, google it up, learn the shit and then fucking be an expert at it. Don’t take what I say. As like, the holy grail of words and to like use that as like the fucking Holy Quran Holy Bible of words to like, make your decision. You know, I give you a little nugget. Take it run away with it. Especially if I don’t know you. If I don’t know you like How dare you ask me 20 billion questions about something and then God forbid one thing is wrong. And then now you’re fucking blowing my spot up on social media. Fuck you.

Calvin Tilokee 55:01
Yeah, I’m gonna back you up on that one because I didn’t have to get off my lawn for this week. I’m saving it for I don’t like that jerk. But I get a lot of shit like that, too. I had one some guy asked me something real simple was like, you know something about a reservation system? Or are there trainings for this reservation system? And I saw it, and I didn’t respond. I was like, this is an easy Google search. And I didn’t want to be rude by saying that, so I just didn’t respond. And then he come back and hit me with a double question, Mark. I was like this man. Do I look like your assistant?

Mikko Miller 55:34
Yeah, man, you

Calvin Tilokee 55:36
got Google just like I do look that shit up. Like I don’t know if top of my head but that’s where I’m gonna go to find out.

Steve 55:41
Have you ever just typed back Google, to someone when when they did that? In a night? I

Calvin Tilokee 55:46
didn’t do that. Yeah, I didn’t. I don’t want to be a dick like that. But I like I googled, and I took a screenshot of the first thing that came up and I sent the screenshot. So basically, but I didn’t want to be like, yeah, just google the dish.

Steve 56:00
Oh, no, I’ve sent back Google.

Calvin Tilokee 56:03
I don’t blame you. I don’t blame you. Like, dude, Google. And that’s it. Yeah, I mean, I should I respected I wish I could be that blunt. Sometimes it’d be honest. But yeah,

Mikko Miller 56:12
I can’t. I mean, if I know you with different you know, I’ll give you information all day long. If I know you, if you’re my brother, if you’re my cousin, if you’re my friend, I will feed you information. Because you know, I want you to eat as much as I eat. You know what I mean? Like, I want to give you the information as much as I have it. But if I don’t know you from Adam, if I don’t fucking know you, like, ask me a question or to respect my time, and then go fucking take the answers that I gave you and be fucking happy with that shit. You know?

Steve 56:39
When I just right back, you know, Google.

Mikko Miller 56:42
I mean, come on. You know, the audacity though, to be mad when you’re wrong on like, you know, advice number 1000 for them is crazy. You told me fuck you find your own acid and stuff. I can ask you me? I don’t know you. You know what I mean? Like I don’t I don’t have any obligations to you. I don’t know you. You’re You’re just some random text messaging that I’m getting on my DMS on Instagram or on YouTube or on fucking shaper or LinkedIn or whatever. Like, I don’t know you find your own fucking answers and stuff I can ask you

Calvin Tilokee 57:14
me. Made a cnn uh, don’t be a menace. like Yo, I’m gonna do was in jail. How come you never came to see me man. I don’t know. You

know, it’s time for mine is Bruce Arians.

Mikko Miller 57:39
Oh

Calvin Tilokee 57:40
is the coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So full disclosure, my background on this whole on this whole Tom Brady patriots thing? I’m not rooting for Brady. Right. I don’t actually understand people that are because it’s like, you had a girl for 20 years. You were in a relationship with them for 20 years. They say you know what? I’m gonna go somewhere else where it’s more fun, and I could relax and enjoy myself. So fuck you then. I don’t want to see you prosper. I want to see you do worse. Shit. Oh, you could do better that’s gonna be better for you. Fuck you get out of here. Right so I’m not rooting for him. But you know what? They went out on one yesterday. They beat Drew Brees and then I remembered why Tom Brady is the goat it’s like because he’s never gonna throw three interceptions in a playoff game. That just should just doesn’t happen. You know what I mean? And, you know, he showed again why he’s better and like now it’s getting close. So it could be it could potentially be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the chiefs and there’s no fucking way I’m rooting for the chiefs. So yeah yeah, all the bills I’m not rooting for the bills either God forbid the bills make the Superbowl I’m you know, so I’m I was like, I was opening up to maybe having to root for this dude again. But then Bruce Arians today comes out and said, Now mind you, all they did was make the NFC Championship they haven’t like won anything. Bruce Arians has never won a Super Bowl as a head coach. Okay, this might be his first playoff run. But he’s out here talking about you know, throwing shade at Bill Belichick at all people.

You know, he’s like, I allow him to be himself, like New England didn’t allow him to coach. I allow him to coach and I just sit back sometimes and watch. Oh, I’m sorry. So are you insinuating? You know how to coach him better than Bill Belichick did? Have you won six Super Bowls with this motherfucker. Shut up. Dude, are you popping off like he’s What? Like, you ain’t shit. You ain’t never done a damn thing. And who the fuck you think you’re talking about Bill Belichick. Man Don’t make me come for you. I send the Patriots if after you say you’ll get to talk about Belichick that do has eight Super Bowl rings. eight six as a head coach. Oh yeah, that’s right. Yeah. You want to with the Giants? You know I mean like and you think you know how to how to manage and Coach Tom Brady better than the guy who helped him win six Super Bowls and why You focus on that anyway. You got to play Green Bay next week. Shouldn’t that be your focus?

Mikko Miller 1:00:05
Yeah, same to trash talking. Right after you win the Super Bowl, even then.

Calvin Tilokee 1:00:12
And then yeah, you got six. Before you you could even you got to at least hit four before Bellatrix named could come at your mouth as somebody who you might be able to compare to get the fuck out of here. That’s it. I’m done.

Steve 1:00:30
I don’t like that jerk. Johnny Manziel Oh, Enzo, sitting there trolling the Browns after he after they lost.

Calvin Tilokee 1:00:39
Shed word.

Steve 1:00:40
Yeah, you know, come on. I mean, just one of the most ridiculous people. He’s just one of the most ridiculous people.

Mikko Miller 1:00:49
Yeah, you know, Johnny fucking.

Steve 1:00:52
I don’t even know if he’s playing football right now.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:55
No.

Calvin Tilokee 1:00:57
I’m in Vegas last year. You did? I saw him it. Yeah, you remember that? When I told you I went for the for the black East concert for just the weekend. And I was hanging out at the sports bar at the at Caesar’s Palace. Yeah, I still have a place in a bit. Wow. That dude is like five foot. Six tops. No,

Mikko Miller 1:01:17
no, he sees small dude. He’s a small guy.

Calvin Tilokee 1:01:20
Yeah, I met No, I’m exaggerating. But like no joke. He might be my head. I’m about 510 511 he’s he might be there. Maybe

Mikko Miller 1:01:27
even that’s a stretch huh?

Calvin Tilokee 1:01:31
Yeah, these are small guy.

Steve 1:01:32
He’s an asshole.

Mikko Miller 1:01:34
Yeah, and the funny thing is to have Baker Mayfield be like Johnny football. You know, they were casting that same mold, supposedly but Mayfield’s way better way way way but not that I fuck. Yeah. Baker Mayfield but Mayfield’s definitely way better than fucking Johnny football. Yeah,

Calvin Tilokee 1:01:54
I mean, he’s still in the league. So I’ll be

Mikko Miller 1:02:04
mine is. Fuck that ups guy. That set my package up in my front porch. And it looked like he opened the ship. So I had a box delivered. And it’s tape sealed up, but the box looked like someone punched it through the front to try to peek to see what was inside. Now, mine Mind you, we have a UPS driver that delivers to us almost daily. And I used to get, I mean, fuck, three, four or five pairs of shoes coming in. And the old driver that we used to have before knew that because you know, when Nike sends you something, it’s in a Nike fucking tape. You know, they take Nike all the way around it and you know what shoes, or at least an article of clothing, right? So this box had Nike tape around it, but it was really like Pokemon cards inside that I had one off raffles and stuff. So I don’t know if this ups guy was brand new, you know, look like he kicked or punched through the box so that he could peek what’s inside and probably saw it was a bunch of Pokemon cards, and they just threw the box at my door. But like, yeah, I’ve never had a package like that. I’ve never had a package where it’s been like kind of like ripped open or punched open. If you had a box, and you taped it up, right? It takes brute force to get that box opened up. You got to cut the tape. You got to do all that stuff for someone like punched through or kicked through. I mean, it’s impossible other boxes fell on top and ripped it open. And when someone purposely did this shit to try to see what was inside and when they saw Pokemon card. I guess they were like, oh fuck this guy. You know? Sorry. Pokemon cards, not

Calvin Tilokee 1:03:34
shoes. Yeah. disappoint you.

Mikko Miller 1:03:41
Sorry, guy, but Yeah, fuck

Calvin Tilokee 1:03:42
you. Alright, time to wrap it up with the Chris Rock quote of the week.

Mikko Miller 1:03:50
Who got one of mine stupid God has nothing to do with nothing.

Calvin Tilokee 1:03:55
That’s fine. That’s fine. All right.

Mikko Miller 1:04:00
You guys know there’s a stripper myth. Right? There’s a myth that’s being perpetuated throughout society. And that myth is I am stripping to pay my tuition. No, you’re not. There’s no strippers in college. There’s no clear heels and biology shit. And I didn’t know that colleges that only took $1 bills. And if they got so many strippers that college How come I never got a smart lap dance. I never got a girl that sat on my lap and said If I was you, I would diversify my portfolio. You know everything into the Cold War. I find NATO obsolete. What are the best? Oh yeah. The biology dance moves and he’s like grinding in the air. Chris. Got his knees tucked into gaylene like in a half circle. Like, if I were you, I would diversify my portfolio.

Steve 1:05:11
What was that one and again,

Mikko Miller 1:05:13
bigger and blacker, I think? Yes, I like that or Yeah, I think is bigger than black. Yeah, it’s

Calvin Tilokee 1:05:20
one of those two.

Mikko Miller 1:05:21
Yeah, definitely one of the only two that we really lost in college, bring the pain are bigger and blacker.

Calvin Tilokee 1:05:27
Since we were recording this on martin luther king day. I tried to get through and I’ll let you know. It was funny. Martin Luther King stood for non violence. Now what’s MLK a street? And okay, when you are in America, if you’re on MLK Boulevard isn’t violence going down? You can’t tell anyone you lost an MLK. Hey, man, I lost it. I’m okay. Run.The media is there.

Mikko Miller 1:06:16
You can’t tell no one king Boulevard for us.

It’s so true. Especially if you live in inner I think only inner cities have Martin Luther King Boulevard from where I live. I mean, I’ve been to Baltimore Martin Luther King Boulevard over there. for lack of a better word, it’s rough on that street. Yeah. I mean, there’s You see, like heroin crack addicts in deals going down right on one kilowatt. So when that joke was said, I mean that shit really hit home.

Calvin Tilokee 1:06:52
No, I mean, that’s pretty much true. There’s one near me it’s not that sketchy. But if there was a sketchy part of my city that would be still accurate.

Oh, man. All right. Cool. Cool. Let’s wrap it up. Great episode, sharing some networking stories. So hopefully you guys learn something and get out there make the most of your network. This is Calvin. As always, you can find me on Instagram at Revparblems, Revpartravels, Revpargrowth, Revparmedia or catch it all at Revparblems.com

Mikko Miller 1:07:30
And this is Mikko the Filipino catch me on Instagram at mikko_eats.

Steve 1:07:36
Hey, this is Steve. You can hear me every week with Cal and Mikko on the midlife crisis podcast.

Calvin Tilokee 1:07:41
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Mikko Miller 1:08:12
Thank you for 1500 Let’s go

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